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  julombie

  By accessing the catalog I meant finding the actual publication by Kobylańska, be it in pdf or a physical copy, to read the commentary and likely see the fascimile of the manuscript.

  Luckily, I found the manuscript elsewhere. I was hoping they would be complete pieces, but in fact these are only two short sketches.

  http://kolekcja.nifc.pl/object-m-202

  That manuscript was supposedly sent by George Sand along with her letter to Stefan Witwicki. The letter in question was resent several times and owned by different people.

  • George Sand -> Stefan Witwicki (letter dated 22 March 1844)
  • Stefan Witwicki -> Karolina Mężeńska (17 April 1844)
  • Mężeńska's granddaughter, also named Karolina -> Zygmunt Mycielski (31 January 1929)

  Zygmunt Mycielski published the letters (translated into Polish) and the sheet music of the sketch in the Polish magazine Muzyka (issue R.7 nr1 from 20 January 1930).

  Here's the issue of the magazine. See the musical fragment on page 12.

  https://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/publication/266266/edition/234743/content

  After reading the letters, it seems neither Sand nor Witwicki indicated that there was any sheet music attached. It was Karolina Mężeńska (the granddaughter) who wrote that the manuscript had been put into the envelope by Sand.

  maau34wThu, 27 Jun 2024 17:54

  What do you mean by accessing the catalog to be more exact?

  julombieTue, 25 Jun 2024 11:29

  Since It's taken from the catalog of Chopin's works by Krystyna Kobylańska, maybe we would get more info if we could access the catalog?

  PL name: Rękopisy utworów Chopina: katalog

  DE name: Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis

  il y a 2 jours

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  maau34w

  What do you mean by accessing the catalog to be more exact?

  julombieTue, 25 Jun 2024 11:29

  Since It's taken from the catalog of Chopin's works by Krystyna Kobylańska, maybe we would get more info if we could access the catalog?

  PL name: Rękopisy utworów Chopina: katalog

  DE name: Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis

  il y a 3 jours

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  maau34w

  It is well known that this is a spurious work, but where do these incipits come from?

  krillbeatsThu, 27 Jun 2024 06:24

  In the site it says: These pieces are possibly spurious.

  Apart from that, i searched chopins works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin_by_genre

  I listened to the only prelude in d major and it's incorrect. Plus i listened to the majority of his preludes and didnt find nothing, so yeah, maybe its an illegitimate composition

  il y a 3 jours

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  krillbeats

  *F major

  krillbeatsThu, 27 Jun 2024 06:24

  In the site it says: These pieces are possibly spurious.

  Apart from that, i searched chopins works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin_by_genre

  I listened to the only prelude in d major and it's incorrect. Plus i listened to the majority of his preludes and didnt find nothing, so yeah, maybe its an illegitimate composition

  il y a 4 jours

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  krillbeats

  In the site it says: These pieces are possibly spurious.

  Apart from that, i searched chopins works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin_by_genre

  I listened to the only prelude in d major and it's incorrect. Plus i listened to the majority of his preludes and didnt find nothing, so yeah, maybe its an illegitimate composition

  il y a 4 jours

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  julombie

  Since It's taken from the catalog of Chopin's works by Krystyna Kobylańska, maybe we would get more info if we could access the catalog?

  PL name: Rękopisy utworów Chopina: katalog

  DE name: Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis

  il y a 6 jours

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  maau34w

  https://www.pianolibrary.org/composers/chopin/prelude-andantino-kk-anh1a2-anh1a3/#1

  il y a 7 jours

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